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These are the stories Wil loves to tell, because they are the closest to his heart: stories about being a huge geek, passing his geeky hobbies and values along to his own children, and vividly painting what it meant to grow up in the ’70s and come of age in the ’80s as part of the video game/D&D/BBS/Star Wars figures generation.
Wow, yeah, the old mix tape. I guess I started making them back in the mid 70's. I had a small black and white TV hooked up to a reel-to-reel tape recorder. I'd record theme songs from my favorite TV shows, dialog from all kinds of weird things. Then I'd record the washing machine run through it's cycles, mumble strange things into the microphone and the even tape the neighbors dog barking.
THEN, spend hours running chunks of that stuff down to my cassette recorder interspersed with as eclectic of a collection of music I could pull together
from my growing collection of LP's. I'm not sure my friends really understood what it all meant, but I did.
Posted by: ThemePark | July 22, 2007 at 03:30 PM
Mirror
Posted by: herdivineshadow | July 22, 2007 at 03:53 PM
Here's a mirror for ya:
Mirror Via MoronLife.com
It's uploading now, should be ready to go live in a few minutes...
Clay
Posted by: Clay | July 22, 2007 at 04:32 PM
Now what would totally rock is if some geek with an old TDK cassette found a blank insert and scanned it, to make playlists. I think I've got one, but no scanner...
Posted by: wolfger | July 22, 2007 at 04:36 PM
At the risk of stirring a hornet's nest, could someone explain how a mix tape, as described, wouldn't be subject to the full force of the RIAA legal hammer? (And maybe others, since sources other than music were included.) Is there some inherent difference in the "mix tape" format that bypasses all the copyright protection? I assume that there must be some such ruling, else characters on shows on the WB network wouldn't be sharing mix tapes with each other, since WB is also a music company. However, it sure seems that there's little or no difference between making a mix tape (or CD or memory stick, these days) and just sharing copies of songs. Is the RIAA only upset about /network/ copying, but exchanging /physical/ copies is OK? That would seem to be the guideline based on recent WB episodes. If not, then it would seem that WW is inviting the RIAA into his life by admitting he shares mix tapes with friends and even worse...making a copy available for download.
Of course, if everything on it is public domain, creative commons, etc., then he's obviously in the clear.
Not trying to be mean or rude, just a concerned reader.
Posted by: nurbles | July 22, 2007 at 04:46 PM
I remember the mix tape practice as well. Even made my wife-to-be a CD mix way back in old 1998 as we were dating.
Good times.
Mirror on S3
Posted by: Keith Veleba | July 22, 2007 at 05:01 PM
Whoops. Here's the corrected mirror link:
Mirror on S3
Posted by: Keith Veleba | July 22, 2007 at 05:03 PM
I remember doing this a lot with the radio, tripping over odds and ends in my room to get to the 'record' button when I heard a cool song come on the radio. Then, of course, getting really mad when the DJ cut the song off much to early for my liking to jabber away or go to the next song.
I have no idea where my cassetts are now :(
Posted by: SandieK | July 22, 2007 at 05:10 PM
Good points, nurbles, and I was cognizant of that when I made this last night. Everything on this tape is either public domain, or so old and out of print, it's not worth the RIAA's time to hassle me about it.
They're very busy destroying Internet Radio at the moment, you know.
And thanks for the mirrors, you guys! Awesome.
Posted by: Wil | July 22, 2007 at 05:11 PM
Here's another mirror for you, if you can use it:
Mirror at Effluxity
Posted by: John Bell | July 22, 2007 at 07:05 PM
Somebody should put up a torrent. Yeah, it should be me, what with me having the idea and everything -- but like everyone else that hasn't done it, I don't have the time right now. :) Maybe after it downloads I'll put it up somewhere.
Signed,
Lazy One
Posted by: Shawn Powers | July 22, 2007 at 07:20 PM
I actually just wrote a really short story a couple of months ago about mixtapes. Its available here if anyone's interested.
Posted by: JordanG | July 22, 2007 at 08:23 PM
I am so into this. I remember listening (dating myself) to a Cal State Univ Northridge comedy radio broadcast in the 70's that started with Night Train and ended with They're Coming to Take Me Away Ha Ha. I loved that show and this mix tape reminds me of that. Keep 'em coming!
- Long time reader first time poster.
Posted by: netbob | July 22, 2007 at 08:43 PM
I've been making mix tapes, and later CDs, for years. For the last 10 years or so I've made one "Monthly Mix" at the beginning of each month. I can put on, say, May 1999, and instantly remember what I was listening to at the time -- and from there connect to all sorts of other memories.
Posted by: todd | July 23, 2007 at 02:26 AM
Great mix tape Wil, really enjoyed that, thanks ;)
Posted by: jerrell | July 23, 2007 at 03:43 AM
Hey Wil. Your post brought back some good memories of great mixtapes made for bad girlfriends when I was growing up. You might want to check out Thurston Moore's book "Mix Tape: The Art of the Cassette Culture". I think you'll like it.
http://www.amazon.com/Mix-Tape-Thurston-Moore/dp/0789311992
Posted by: Roadkillkid | July 23, 2007 at 05:13 AM
I can't remember where I originally read about it, but I wanted to mention the International Mixtape Project.
http://internationalmixtapeproject.com/
I would have joined, but I know myself - I'd make 2 or 3 really great mixes and then I'd get too busy or I'd just forget to mail anything out. (Although they say it's ok to keep sending the same mix out.) For anyone who's really into it, it sounds like a great idea.
Posted by: caitlen315 | July 23, 2007 at 06:59 AM
Listen to me now in the name of Jesus... that is one HELL of a mix.
Consider that tape in the first slot of my cassette case. (aka Playlist 1 on my iPod).
Thanks Wil!
Posted by: Scratch | July 23, 2007 at 09:09 AM
Now that's hawesome! Yeah, me, too (to much of the above) - I'm listening to it for the third or fourth time, and my wife (and now staff) look at me funny everytime they walk through the office :-) I've been away from WWdN:iX for far too long, but it looks like I came back at the perfect time. But looking back at the entries, I couldn't have missed. . .
Posted by: ExGeekDogTrainer | July 23, 2007 at 12:48 PM
Oops - forgot to mention that I am sorely tempted to submit a Bat Phone secret number guess ;-}
Posted by: ExGeekDogTrainer | July 23, 2007 at 12:54 PM
nurbles: 17USC1008, from the Audio Home Recording Act of 1992, says that non-commercial copying by consumers of digital and analog musical recordings is not copyright infringement. However, 17USC1003 provides for a 3% levy on blank digital audio recording media which is kicked back to the recording industry. That's why there are those blank "music" CDs at the store. They have had that 3% collected on them. You may also be interested in reading Frank Zappa's testimony to Congress about the PMRC, in part in regards to the then-current 99th Congress' HR2911 attempt to put the same tax on blank cassette tapes.
Posted by: Bitt Faulk | July 23, 2007 at 12:58 PM
I did a mix tape for my wedding in (cough cough) 1977. Reel-to-reel tape, it was. This year I tracked down a lot of the original recordings and redid it on CDs and mp3's for our 30th anniversary.
Posted by: DWStrauss | July 23, 2007 at 01:05 PM
Did you see the televisionwithoutpity episode summary about the pathetic Scott Baio show? It has a little (though not particularly flattering) reference to you Wil.
http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/portal/site/TelevisionWithoutPity/menuitem.766266d5c663f366b180b41045001d30/?vgnextoid=02f1d1cc7d3f3110VgnVCM1000006dc1d240RCRD&vgnextfmt=default&ShowName=Mondo%20Extras
By the way- love the site. I've been reading for a couple of years but haven't ever posted a comment. I suppose this is a rather inauspicious debut.
Posted by: dowdyk | July 23, 2007 at 01:45 PM
bitt faulk: I wonder why we don't hear more about that ruling when we hear about RIAA insanity. I suppose that RIAA should just get 3% of all of the money spent on memory. After all, a casette tape is rerecordable, so in principle it would seem to be the same as memory, no? And before the quality of a casette is mentioned, remember it is a magenetic medium, just like a floppy (remember those?) so we could have put MP3's on casette, too (just like I do now with CD-Rs for use in my car stereo).
It sure seems like Napster, et al simply make the legal [according to bitt faulk's references] mix tape/CD concept a bit easier (here's everything I own, as a single huge mix tape, take the tracks you like...) to pick and choose for your own remixes. Or does that law only allow ONE pass, as it were? Perhaps one is NOT allowed to pick selected tracks from various mix tapes, from various friends and create a new one for new friends...
But this has nothing to do with Wil's excellent mix tape. So I'll stop now, but this sure sounds like it might be worthy of a more widespread debate.
Posted by: nurbles | July 23, 2007 at 05:03 PM
Takes you back listening to that. I half expected Adam West and Burt Ward to give out an email address instead of 'postcards only'.
I used to make mix tapes on really crappy but well loved portable cassette players in the early 80s, I even used to record my voice on a Dictaphone I borrowed from my parents and tried to get it then recorded on cassette interspersed DJ like with radio recorded tunes.
You get some funny looks driving down the road with your mix blaring from the speakers. w00t
Mike
Posted by: Mike Wood | July 23, 2007 at 09:48 PM